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this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel and the united states because in doing so, they could file complaints with the court about the occupation, how palestinians are being treated. right now they have no such recourse. this is what could trigger a backlash by the u.s. and israel, who are downplaying it now saying that it's really meaningless, it doesn't have much meaning, and in a sense they're right, but for the palestinians, as can you see there in ramallah, it has incredible meaning, and it's got meaning for mahmoud abbas and fatah. this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are th
this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel...
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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can break the 4,000-year-old bond between the people of israel and the land of israel. >> the palestinians have had a permanent observer status at the u.n. since 1974, when the palestinian liberation organization oh was recognized as an observer, a position which is not defined in the u.n.'s charter. >>> and for the first time since the election, president barack obama and governor mitt romney will meet. they're going to have lunch at the white house. before that happens, romney will meet with his former running mate, congressman paul ryan. >>> former baltimore orioles doug de census is indicted on insider trading. money laundering for a stock sale in 2008. the feds claim decinces bought $160,000 of stock in a medical device company and sold it for $1.3 billion after a friend alerted him to a takeover bid. >>> let's talk -- real sports now. they say you can't lose your job to injury. tell that to alex smith. the 49ers' quarterback was on a role this season, completing 70% of his passes and leading the team to the top of the power rankings and then he suffered a concussion in the november 1
can break the 4,000-year-old bond between the people of israel and the land of israel. >> the palestinians have had a permanent observer status at the u.n. since 1974, when the palestinian liberation organization oh was recognized as an observer, a position which is not defined in the u.n.'s charter. >>> and for the first time since the election, president barack obama and governor mitt romney will meet. they're going to have lunch at the white house. before that happens, romney...
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and israel are afraid of is that president abbas won't go back to the table because israel is so opposed, and he'll seek these other u.n. measures. that would exacerbate the crisis. >> all right. thank you. >> it's about 17 minutes after the hour. let's get you caught up on the top stories. mitt romney is on his way to the white house for lunch with the president. it's not clear if they will be discussing the fiscal cliff or a possible role for romney in the obama administration or if they're just having lunch. tim geithner also entering the fray, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders today in an attempt to get talks moving. >>> this alabama teen alleged by beaten by her girl friend's brother insists it didn't happen because she is day. they say the real story will come out when the time is right, for now that's all they're saying. the family is saying it is a hate crime and they want 18-year-old travis hawkins second degree charges upgraded to murder. >>> a texas man is in custody for allegedly making terrorist threats against a san antonio mosque. a wit
and israel are afraid of is that president abbas won't go back to the table because israel is so opposed, and he'll seek these other u.n. measures. that would exacerbate the crisis. >> all right. thank you. >> it's about 17 minutes after the hour. let's get you caught up on the top stories. mitt romney is on his way to the white house for lunch with the president. it's not clear if they will be discussing the fiscal cliff or a possible role for romney in the obama administration or...
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israel is trying to down play the significance of the vote. the last week the israeli officials were saying this was diplomatic terrorism and they have shifted that position to say essentially that the vote taking place lacks substance. early today here in jerusalem a number of right wing activists held a demonstration near a u.n. building, they burned a palestinian flag and voiced their opposition to the vote that is taking place and a number of israels are worried that palestinians because of the vote will be eligible on bring cases such as alleged human right violations to the international human court, israeli's prime minister, netanyahu, earlier described the vote as a set back to the peace poses. >> the only way to achieve peace is law agreements that are reached by the parties directly through direct negotiations teen themselves and not through u.n. resolutions that completely ignore israel's vellets security and national interests. >> despite the prime minister's rejection of the u.n. vote, a small number of left wing israels demonstra
israel is trying to down play the significance of the vote. the last week the israeli officials were saying this was diplomatic terrorism and they have shifted that position to say essentially that the vote taking place lacks substance. early today here in jerusalem a number of right wing activists held a demonstration near a u.n. building, they burned a palestinian flag and voiced their opposition to the vote that is taking place and a number of israels are worried that palestinians because of...
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it would provide international recognition for palestinian control over areas that israel captured in the six-day war. >> said many times that the path to a two-state solutionn that fulfilled the aspirerationn of the palestinian people is through jers lemm and ramallah and not new york. >> israel is saying it will not return to negotiations after the vote. >> brandd new details lurking in the train crash that kill would four wounded warriors. the railroad crossing only gave a 20 second warning that the train was coming. it is supposed to be 30 seconds. and the driver of the truck entered one second after the crossing guards began to lower. >> you are about to see a photothat turns a police officer in a hero now. he saw a homeless man in times square and had no shoes on his feet. he went to a scretcher's store and bought a pair of boots. a tourist of arizona snap today on the nypd page. the officer said he's kept the receipt for the is ever upon in h vest to remind him that people have it worse. >> he was worse walking around with just his jacket on. it went viral and another greatteni
it would provide international recognition for palestinian control over areas that israel captured in the six-day war. >> said many times that the path to a two-state solutionn that fulfilled the aspirerationn of the palestinian people is through jers lemm and ramallah and not new york. >> israel is saying it will not return to negotiations after the vote. >> brandd new details lurking in the train crash that kill would four wounded warriors. the railroad crossing only gave a...
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or israel actually hurts the only thing that has been working. so i think all of these things together come to produce would what i would hope would be a more rational response. >> warner: so bottom line: what impact will this have on, say, the prospects for moving at all off the negotiation which is have been stalled for so many years ? >> i think nothing is big is going to have-to-happen until after the israeli elections in january and hopefully we'll see a broader-based government and we'll see also president abbas realize two years of impasse, not coming to the table has not really yielded much and that they will basically realize you could have all the symbolic votevoteat theup as you want bus no substitute for working out your differences face to face and the road to statehood leads through peace. >> warner: you mean through negotiated peace. >> right. >> warner: but that would require the palestinians to drop their precondition on talks, right? which has been first israel has to stop building settlements. >> i think it would require action
or israel actually hurts the only thing that has been working. so i think all of these things together come to produce would what i would hope would be a more rational response. >> warner: so bottom line: what impact will this have on, say, the prospects for moving at all off the negotiation which is have been stalled for so many years ? >> i think nothing is big is going to have-to-happen until after the israeli elections in january and hopefully we'll see a broader-based...
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officials over fears that such a move could harm peace negotiations with israel. palestinian leaders view the vote as a step towards global recognition. >>> and it turns out, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former republican candidate is meeting president obama for lunch in the private dining room. mr. obama had promised in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. while in washington, romney will sit down with his former running mate, paul ryan. now, that lunch is not going to be open to the media. but, oh, to be a fly or anything on that wall. >> awkward. have fun, fellas. >>> when we come back this morning, get your motor running. the new cars getting the buzz at the l.a. auto show. >>> and you're going to need big bucks at starbucks. the $7 cup of coffee is here. >>> and we can't get enough of powerball. what we're learning about the winning tickets. and a little advice for next time. >>> and welcome back, everyone. three former bp workers are free this morning after being arraigned on manslaughter charger, stemming from t
officials over fears that such a move could harm peace negotiations with israel. palestinian leaders view the vote as a step towards global recognition. >>> and it turns out, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former republican candidate is meeting president obama for lunch in the private dining room. mr. obama had promised in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. while in washington, romney will sit down with his former running mate, paul ryan....
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insists on direct negotiations with israel. at this point, there's no specific timetable for today's vote. >>> a new report shows u.s. prisons can safely handle 166 terror suspects currently being detained at guantanomo bay, cuba. the government's accountability offices analyzed the potential effects if the u.s. decided to shut down the bay. senator dianne feinstein of california head of the senate intelligence committee says u.s. prisons already hold 373 inmates convicted of terrorism and there haven't been any security problems in those cases. but others say that doesn't matter. >> to have them in essence living on the same soil and being -- it's just uncomfortable. i think it's unfair to america. >> closing the guantanomo bay prison would save the u.s. an estimated $114 million a year. >>> it is 5:51. lindsay lohan in a nightclub brawl. we'll have the latest. >> new details on the troubled star's latest arrest. >> and a new way to deal with misbehaving kids. the controversy over one school's isolation booth. >> and we are fo
insists on direct negotiations with israel. at this point, there's no specific timetable for today's vote. >>> a new report shows u.s. prisons can safely handle 166 terror suspects currently being detained at guantanomo bay, cuba. the government's accountability offices analyzed the potential effects if the u.s. decided to shut down the bay. senator dianne feinstein of california head of the senate intelligence committee says u.s. prisons already hold 373 inmates convicted of terrorism...
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, not new york. >> israel's prime minister says u.n. recognition of an independent palestinian state would not advance the palestinians' quest for a homeland. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says palestinians first need to recognize israel as the jewish homeland, declare an end to their conflict and agree to security procedures that protect israel. >>> more talks are in the works on capitol hill in hopes of preventing the u.s. from falling off the "fiscal cliff." treasury secretary tim geithner and a white house aide plan to visit with the four house and senate leaders. they hope to find common ground on how to avert a series of tax increases and spending cuts scheduled to begin in january. >>> president obama will have lunch with mitt romney today the first time they meet face to face since their debate before the election. the event at the white house will be private. no aides will be present. no media will be allowed. >>> powerball ticketholders are checking their numbers twice today. >> yeah. good luck. the record-breaking
, not new york. >> israel's prime minister says u.n. recognition of an independent palestinian state would not advance the palestinians' quest for a homeland. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says palestinians first need to recognize israel as the jewish homeland, declare an end to their conflict and agree to security procedures that protect israel. >>> more talks are in the works on capitol hill in hopes of preventing the u.s. from falling off the "fiscal...
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. >> we did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is israel. rather, we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence, and this is palestine. >> sreenivasan: palestinians said the vote would strengthen their hand in future peace talks with israel. but the israeli ambassador to the u.n., ron prosor, warned that the palestinians are turning their backs on peace. >> for as long as president abbas prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he prefers to travel to new york for u.n. resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for genuine dialogue, any hope of peace will be out of reach. >> sreenivasan: meanwhile, a bipartisan group of u.s. senators said today they will push to cut off u.s. aid, if the palestinians use their new status to bring israel before the international criminal court. in iraq, a wave of attacks today killed at least 43 people. most of the victims were in the city of hillah, south of baghdad. back-to-back explosions targeted shi-ite pilgrims and emergency responders. the force of the blasts left
. >> we did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is israel. rather, we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence, and this is palestine. >> sreenivasan: palestinians said the vote would strengthen their hand in future peace talks with israel. but the israeli ambassador to the u.n., ron prosor, warned that the palestinians are turning their backs on peace. >> for as long as president abbas prefers...
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as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state solution that fills the aspirations of the palestine people through them, not new york. >> reporter: the vet comes a week after a cease fire that stopped eight days of blood shed. if the palestine president wins the vote as he is expected to it could boost his creditability with hamas in any future negotiations, there could be a price for him. members of congress are threatening to cut the united states -- gives about a half billion dollars in yearly aid to palestine. are. some are threatening to cut that. >> let's bring you to up to date on other top storey. a teen girl from oakland is still missing this mor
as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state...
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. >> they will objectify the justice the palestinians have undergone beginning with the state of israel in 1948... >> reporter: the un vote comes after a cease-fire agreement at the un in gaza. some say mahmoud ahmadinejad needs to boost his own authority and we are looking at why the u.s. is opposing that, allison burns ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> we have new details about a hero at cement plant in cupertino. they issued a report, they said the truck driver tried to tackle the gunman and save his co-workers. he hid from police inside a crawl space inside a house in sunny veil. deputies shot him when he came out the next day but he actually died of a self- inflicted gunshot wound. >>> it makes six suspicious -- suspicious fires in two weeks. one damaged a mortgage business in alabama and broadway. another one was a burning chair in an alley about a half mile away. now these two fires are very close to four other fires in the past two weeks which burned two homes and two businesses. >> i don't know what it tells me but i can tell you i am worried to death. >> so far nobody has been
. >> they will objectify the justice the palestinians have undergone beginning with the state of israel in 1948... >> reporter: the un vote comes after a cease-fire agreement at the un in gaza. some say mahmoud ahmadinejad needs to boost his own authority and we are looking at why the u.s. is opposing that, allison burns ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> we have new details about a hero at cement plant in cupertino. they issued a report, they said the truck driver tried to...
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israel opposes this decision and says it can only be achieved with direct negotiation with israel. >>> do you think they're at work this morning? >> no. >> no. two very lucky winners of the powerball jackpot. one ticket sold in missouri, the other in arizona. whoever you are, the two of you will be splitting the record $588 million jackpot. >> some of these have been split four, five ways. two say nice split. >> it could be two large families. we don't know. in case you're wondering this morning, 5, 16, 22, 23, 29 and a powerball of 6. >> let the debate begin. we're talking baseball guys. important stuff to talk about. give me a second here. barry bonds, roger clemens and sammy sosa have been added to the hall of fame ballot in 2016. bonds all-time home run king, clemens, the best righty ever ibs, at least since world war ii, sammy sosa, hit 60 home runs three times, all under suspicion of taking performance-enhancing drugs. so -- >> how do you feel about this? >> should they get in or not? >> no. >> don't know. >> i love the honesty. >> should they get in or not? >> of course they sh
israel opposes this decision and says it can only be achieved with direct negotiation with israel. >>> do you think they're at work this morning? >> no. >> no. two very lucky winners of the powerball jackpot. one ticket sold in missouri, the other in arizona. whoever you are, the two of you will be splitting the record $588 million jackpot. >> some of these have been split four, five ways. two say nice split. >> it could be two large families. we don't know. in...
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human rights council which has been very anti-israel. and her defense is, look, we do it because it would have been even worse if america hadn't been there to defend israel as this israel bashing went on. >> part of the problem with that statement is that it's indefensible. she made that statement two weeks after the human rights council finished a session in which it passed more israel-bashing resolutions than it had at any session before. so if her presence is doing any good -- or our presence is doing any good, it's not perceptible. megyn: what about syria? we've lost our focus on it in the recent weeks and months with the election, but they are involved in a civil war now, and it was said that bashar assad was about to go. well, he hasn't gone, and, you know, thousands upon thousands of children are dying in syria, many being tortured in front of tear families, and the -- in front of their families, and the unite isn't doing that much. we tried to do something at the united nations, it failed. >> it failed in large measure because th
human rights council which has been very anti-israel. and her defense is, look, we do it because it would have been even worse if america hadn't been there to defend israel as this israel bashing went on. >> part of the problem with that statement is that it's indefensible. she made that statement two weeks after the human rights council finished a session in which it passed more israel-bashing resolutions than it had at any session before. so if her presence is doing any good -- or our...
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. >> he negotiated a cease-fire between israel and hamas, the words were not out of president obama's mouth praising him for this, offering to help him with half a billion dollars of aid, convincing the imf to give him almost $5 billion of aid and what did morsi do? e seized all the controls of power. already got the parliament and the presidency, put his guys in the military and taking over. connell: in the old days they used to say hosni mubarak was not the best guy in the world but the u.s. can work with him. what about now? >> that is an important difference to make because he was a dictator, hosni mubarak was that he was our guy, pro-american and kept peace with israel. the new guy is a dictator too but not necessarily our guy. not necessarily pro-american. he is part of the muslim brotherhood which is a movement going through the entire middle east now, hijacking the arabs spring and they are anti-american, anti israeli and islamist. dagen: why not pull our funding from the country? >> what we should do is say to them you can't -- your people starve without our aid, they need $1
. >> he negotiated a cease-fire between israel and hamas, the words were not out of president obama's mouth praising him for this, offering to help him with half a billion dollars of aid, convincing the imf to give him almost $5 billion of aid and what did morsi do? e seized all the controls of power. already got the parliament and the presidency, put his guys in the military and taking over. connell: in the old days they used to say hosni mubarak was not the best guy in the world but the...
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to look at what happened recently in the conflict from hamas, the missiles that were being shot into israel, and the system to understand the importance of missile defense. that is a system that focuses on short-term -- short-range missiles, but we all saw the number of civilians that could be protected by the capacity of having a robust missile defense system, and i can't imagine why we wouldn't want to be in the position to make sure that the east coast of our country would be as protected as the west coast when it comes to an emerging threat from iran. and there's no question that the more we hear about the behavior of iran, the more troubled we should be as a country, not only are they -- do they have a robust missile development program, but we all know that they are also making efforts to acquire the capability of having a nuclear weapon. and so now is the time for us to act, not to find ourselves in 2015 with no plans as to how to deploy an east coast missile defense site to make sure that the east coast of our country has the same protection as the west coast, and now is the time to
to look at what happened recently in the conflict from hamas, the missiles that were being shot into israel, and the system to understand the importance of missile defense. that is a system that focuses on short-term -- short-range missiles, but we all saw the number of civilians that could be protected by the capacity of having a robust missile defense system, and i can't imagine why we wouldn't want to be in the position to make sure that the east coast of our country would be as protected as...
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but israel and the u.s. are opposed to the bid, saying it violates peace accords. >>> yet another arrest this morning for lindsay lohan. the troubled starlet was charged with assault around 4:00 a.m. in manhattan. she allegedly punched another woman in the face at a new york city nightclub. the other woman was not arrested and was not taken to the hospital. >>> and now let's head to wall street. cnbc's mary thompson is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mary. >>> good morning, there's growing optimism that a budget deal will be reached to keep the u.s. from falling off the fiscal cliff. today, investors get another read on the holiday shopping season when retailers report their november figures for sales at stores open more than a year. >>> and general motors and its chinese partners are building a third plan in china in order to meet growing demand in that country. >> mary thompson at the new york stock exchange, thanks. >>> a heartwarming photo is going viral online for all of the right r
but israel and the u.s. are opposed to the bid, saying it violates peace accords. >>> yet another arrest this morning for lindsay lohan. the troubled starlet was charged with assault around 4:00 a.m. in manhattan. she allegedly punched another woman in the face at a new york city nightclub. the other woman was not arrested and was not taken to the hospital. >>> and now let's head to wall street. cnbc's mary thompson is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mary....